Chapters
- 0:00FitHub Titan caught my attention
- 1:30Confusing model names and ads
- 3:08Resistance claims, rower, and bench details
- 5:41Why dynamic weight modes matter
- 7:30Tonal-style arm positioning and UX gaps
- 10:30Recommended workouts vs custom workouts
- 12:00RM settings and mode configuration
- 13:30Handle connection issues
- 15:00Why the modes need more control
- 16:30Bugs after the update
Smart Gym Bugs Are Still Here
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This is Part 2 from the full Speediance/Fitness Tech workout discussion. I dig into the FitHub Titan and FitHub Titan Max marketing, the resistance claims, the bench and rower add-ons, and why the product page and ads make it hard to know what you are actually buying. I also walk through Speediance
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But, yeah. I would say the Gimao's are two overall. Uh speaking of that, I've actually been looking at the Fit Hub Titan um the Fit Hub Titan and I I finally So, what's funny is I did reach out to them directly to get a demo of it like what I did with the Aiki. And unfortunately, they uh Uh so, they did not respond back to me. But, what's even more interesting is I I kind of went back and forth with them on Facebook because um you know what I mean? One of the things is so, some some places like it's all over the board with this Fit Hub Titan Max. So, the Fit Hub Titan Max, the reason why I was interested in it is it has supposedly 264 lb of resistance, which gives it more resistance than this by a slight amount. Not by enough of amount to actually switch to it, but by enough of amount really think about it as a device, but you know, what makes it really really odd is they're reusing ads on Facebook from before their new model. Oh, so everything is really weird with this device. I'll be honest with you. I've never seen a device that is so odd in terms of uh the advertising, the marketing around it, and the implementation of it. And I'll explain that. So, when Speeds came out with the two and the two S and the original, their marketing was So, around the the original and the two was clear and concise. You knew exactly what you were getting. You knew what each model was. With the two S, it was way more confusing, to be honest with you. Whenever they released the two S, it was the most confusing release because they put it as a version of the two, which is really, really weird, you know? And it's just an odd kind of, you know, an odd marketing tactic to to do it that way, but at least when you clicked on it, you knew the difference between the two. But, this new FitHub Titan, um FitHub Titan Mirror, which by the way, the name of it also, in some of the ads it's named one way, and some of the ads it's named another way. And when you click on any of the ads, you get the same landing page on FitHub's page, which uh but in the different ads, they have different weight resistances. Like, there's one where it says 220, there's one where it says 264. Um there's ones where it shows the bench, there's ones where it doesn't show a bench. On Amazon, it doesn't show a bench, but it shows the rowing uh package, which is not included. So, like if you buy it, it's not a big deal. It's it's only 200 bucks to add the rowing package. That's the other thing, everything is the base price of the machine is so much more expensive than anything but the 2S. But, the rowing package and all the add-ins are actually way cheaper. And I found out, like you can't Here's a really weird one. The So, I finally found out from them because they claim to have more moves than than these other devices, especially the Aiki, right? So, they claim to have more moves, right? And the reason why this thing's kind of cool is because it has the Tonal style arms. It also has the clips here and here on the new model. Um and that's the other thing, I'm trying to figure out like what has changed from the original model to the new model. And the answer is a lot. But, the worst part about it is the answer is a lot has changed, they're still using the old model ads, they're still old model like there's clearly still old model stuff on their website. Like, when you click on the thing, you can clearly see some of the the screenshots are the old model, like of them working out. And like and and are you getting the new model or are you getting the old model, right? Because you know, it's not clearly defined or clearly explained. There isn't two pathways with two different prices of two different models. That's not a thing on their website. And also like the adjustable bench, I finally found out A, they offer an adjustable bench. That's how they get to that number of movements because by the way in all of their screenshots, they don't show an adjustable bench. There isn't a single picture of someone working out with an adjustable bench on their site or in their ads. And in fact, most of their ads, they don't show a bench at all. Um and I don't know the reason for that. But this FitHub Titan is uh but I finally got them to come back to me and they're like, "Oh yeah, the adjustable bench is 90 bucks on as an add-on to the price of it, which is ins- in in significant, in my opinion. You know what I mean? In fact, their rower's only 200 bucks, their um their bench is only 90 bucks. And they reached out to me directly with this information uh because they wanted me to purchase it right away. And I'm gun-shy about buying another device. But I will especially device where the thing that I wanted to ask them directly and I wanted to have that direct communication with them is specifically around You notice all of these lifts, I'm not setting I didn't set any weights ahead of time. In fact, I don't ever set the weights. So, one of the big things I don't ever do is set the weights. Um they are automatically set for me. So you know, I don't ever actually think about setting the weights. They're automatically set for me and and I use those dynamic weight modes to make that happen. And I'm one of the few users on Speediance who does that. Right, it's just not common. Most people turn that off. And there's a lot of reasons to turn it off. It's confusing. Um I agree with There's another pretty famous, and I apologize I'm blanking on his name, uh Speedy Home Gains. Speedy Home Gains is the name of his channel. He's great content, by the way. Uh and whenever I was deciding on buying one of these, uh and whenever I first purchased it, I actually looked at his content to to kind of make that decision. So, Speedy Home Gains actually, you know, was talking to me directly about one of the users who was complaining around these custom modes. And I'll go into that quickly. I'll turn turn off. Uh Let me do at least one more left, and then I'll turn this off, and I'll I'll show you what I was talking about. But, uh he he was talking back and forth with me with me, and he he he didn't forgotten that it has these capabilities because he's either doing one of two things, and and I'll show you those two things after after I complete this one lift. So, when I do the standing alternating chest press, because it is one of my favorite lifts. So, a lot of these uh chest moves are not really my favorite moves, but this is actually one of my favorites. So, L3. So, what I'm doing now, by the way, and this is a tedious process, is because this isn't a standard workout I do. I don't remember where any of the arm positions are. And so, you have a >> [laughter] >> you know, this is this is one of the complaints about this thing, and it's kind of one of the reasons to buy, well, if it has that feature that the Tonal had, right, you don't know until you get it home. That's the problem. There isn't enough There isn't enough data on this thing to know if it has that feature. And what I'm talking about is when you move the Tonal's arms, it tells you whether the arms in the right position or not, right? Which they could actually do with this device in a in a weird way and they just didn't. You know, and so now I have to click in and click, you know, to try to figure out exactly which L L and R position it is. It It's not a a deal breaker, but it's definitely something that should have been tackled by now, especially because Tonal has had that for Oh, jeez, since the day I got the thing, right? To tell you where the position should be on the screen that you're in. And honestly, there's a really easy way to do that, which someone suggested before they came out with this version three new software, right? So, they came out with this new UX and they didn't fix like basic stuff, right? Which is So, now it's it's L3 R3 on this one, too. But, it's not a We'll do this one lift, also. And this will this will show you why I have this cage around it. So, the cage actually dual dual purpose is for when I'm sliding this thing when I'm sliding this bench this way. So, this move This locks the the That cage will actually lock this in place. It just happens to be the exact right size to lock to lock the You know what I mean? To lock the bench in place. So, it's kind of cool that it it just happens to be the right size. It wasn't wasn't intentionally the right size, but it is actually the right size to lock the bench in place. So, now I don't have to worry about the bench sliding back, which is actually how I did get a little bit of cable rub when I first got the device. So, when I first got this thing, I actually got a little bit of cable rub from the bench sliding back and hitting the hitting the rollers from this exact move. >> Okay, so that's done. Okay, so now I'll show you what I was talking about with with how he how he how he works out or at least how I you know, how in general from the way he's described it that he works out and it's perfectly acceptable. It's just not the way I prefer to work out. It's not the way I worked out on Tonal. It's not the way I work out on here. But he has an advantage in that if you go into all workouts So he actually built some of the some of the workouts on these all workouts screens. So some of the workouts actually came from him, right? And if you're in any of these workouts and any of these all workouts workouts you have the ability to do partner workouts. Um so if I click on ba ba ba Let's go to recommended. So of course it recommends Pilates first. All right, which is pretty funny. That's what That's what it's recommending. But let's click on power one, right? If I go into power one, I have the ability to actually do partner workouts. Um but you don't have that with custom, which is what I was doing. >> [cough and clears throat] >> You can hear that I'm still a little bit under the weather. But yeah, so he does a lot of these programs which then use dynamic weights but they use dynamic weights based upon um based upon the actual Like they use the they use the same thing, but they use the dynamic weights here or when he does custom he instead of So add custom. So add movement. So if we go in here and pick a movement add So this is the screen I wanted to talk about. So and you might not be able to see that very well, but I will walk you through kind of what's on here. So, um what's on here is you have add new custom at the top. You have basic info, you have preset training, and then you have your actual sets. Um what gets people really confused, and I agree with the Speed Home Gyms on this, so these numbers, so this gain muscle, stamina, strength, and customize, those should be so these three should actually just be presets that automatically set you to a default parameter, and then you can freely adjust from within there. So, that's what he thinks this should be, and I totally agree with him. So, I wanted to be clear that I actually completely agree with him on his basic premise of you know, and I want to see what's going on with my handles. So, if I go in here and go the power grips, why are neither of my power grips connected? >> [sighs] >> There's one. See, why is it doing this? There it goes. That was weirdly buggy. And by the way, I actually had it be buggy like this once before, and I went to take a video of it right where my handles weren't connecting properly. I went to take a video, and then everything worked perfectly. So, right as I was going to take the video and send it over to uh Speed and Support, everything just started working. And it worked for the rest of my workout. So, that's happened once before to me where the handles just like randomly disconnect, and then and and then aren't connected the way they are. And I went into that, but that time whenever I went into that setting, I clicked connect, I clicked connect, and I clicked and nothing was working. And finally, I go get my camera, set it all up, get it ready to record, and as I'm go to record, I hit the same set of buttons, everything connected and my whole workout worked. And it's like, ah, that's annoying. You know, and I do see a lot more connection issues with these Speediance devices than I ever did with the Tonal device, except when the battery's die. Because in the Tonal device, when your battery's die, oh boy, does that thing start failing. And it does not it did not warn you at the time. Hopefully, they fix that. I would hope that they fix that now that the battery's actually when they when they die, you know, it it warns you properly. But inside here, you have these presets. And gain muscle stamina. So, I do everything with stamina, and I do everything with the training set to the lowest setting. Right? So, I have the training set to 13 reps. Right? So, I'm not actually doing stamina mode, by the way. So, I'm just taking my normal 12 rep cadence and adding one rep. That's all I'm doing, right? And in fact, my working sets for this then become weight RM, with the weight RM as low as it can go, which is 15. Right? And this is where Speede Home Gyms Gyms has a real problem with this, and I have a slight problem with it, right? And the reason why I don't have a real problem with this system is because I can do what I want. Where I can do warm-up sets with the weight RM at 20, which then gives me a warm-up set, right? Um so, this thing set at 20 gives me a warm-up set. And if I set it down to 15, I get a working set. And I just use stamina for everything, which uh makes no sense logistically because that's not what I'm actually doing. And these these things at the bottom, I should I should be able to set this weight RM to whatever I want. So, I should be able to real realistically, it actually should be minimum. Well, let Let see actually what gain muscle will do. Give me 1 second. So, gain muscle the weight RM is between 9 and 13 and the training reps are between 8 and 12. Well, and that's even kind of broken because I had it set to 13 and it left it. Um that's interesting. That you can trick it to go outside of its ranges. I didn't realize. I wonder if that's a bug that I could actually exploit where I can put things outside of the range of what they want them to be. But, the whole idea here is you could set the weight RM to 9 and set the reps to 12 and that's going to give you above your one rep max. Um that that's that's what that will end up doing. So, what he's pretty much saying is you should be able to set this one like you should be able to set this to 12 reps with one as your as your as your what So, you're giving yourself 12 reps at your one RM you know max capacity, which would make no sense logistically cuz you're never going to be able to finish that unless everything is calculated wrong mathematically inside the system because you're doing 12 reps at your one rep max, right? Which that then makes that not your one rep max in any way. But, for argument's sake he believes that these numbers should be completely configurable. Right? And you can see it's already disconnecting my uh disconnecting my handles, right? So, uh apparently whatever they did with this software update Yeah. makes the handles less stable, which is always fun when that happens. Because these things are fully charged. I made sure they were fully charged before getting this. And that is one thing where this device definitely has some bugs to it. And what's weird is only one of them disconnects, right? Typically. So, if I go in here let me see where it's at. So, if I'm going in here, well now it's just sitting there. Well, that's interesting.
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