Whoop 5.0 Garments Failed Grapplers

Hello, and welcome back to Tobeyon Fitness Tech. Today, I wanted to do a little bit of a niche video, but I wanted to talk about Whoop garments. So, it's something I've been wanting to do for a while, and I actually just got a survey from Whoop, so I'm optimistic that this will change in the future. And I wanted to make the video uh hopefully nudging them towards making the change. And so, what I wanted to talk about is the puck that they added with Whoop 5.0, and my feelings around it. And they're not positive. So, I am a jiu-jitsu grappler, as probably everyone who's been watching the channel for a while knows, and I specifically like the Whoop underwear. So, um they're my favorite thing for grappling, and the reason why I wanted to show this actually in a video, and so that you guys can see it, is in the Whoop 4.0 underwear. So, these are the Whoop 4.0 underwear. Nothing fancy. By the way, these things are expensive. Right? So, I have six pairs of these Whoop 4.0 underwear. Right? And uh so that I could go to grappling pretty much every day and only have to do laundry once a week. That's why there's six pairs of them. It's uh you know, and I By the way, I only wear these. I literally wear them to jiu-jitsu, come back, and usually change. I don't stay in them all day. And the Whoop right now is on my wrist. So, typically the Whoop stays on my wrist unless I'm grappling. Um every now and then I'll have it on the bicep, and I have that here to show you also, because a lot of people will wear that bicep band a lot. I personally don't like it. Uh and I also have the sleeve, but I couldn't find it before the video, so I'll show you guys I actually have the Whoop 4.0 uh shirt that they made, and that has the same position as the sleeve, and it actually feels like the sleeve on you a little bit. Um just so that you can get a frame of reference for these things. But, this is the Whoop 4.0 underwear, and the the place where it actually sits, so it actually sits right here in your hip. So, it's sitting back in the back of your hip, and it actually is uh really really good for grapplers. Like, this was the best placement I've ever seen anyone put something like that because when you land in jujitsu, you land somewhat on it, but not in a way that it hurts you, if that makes any sense. Like, if they put it in the small of your back, you'd feel it. If they put it somewhere up front, it would just be super awkward. But, where they put it is kind of like a neutral spot on your body. So, when you're landing, you're kind of landing on it flat because you land at an angle typically, well, ideally, when you're falling in jujitsu. So, this thing, in my opinion, this is the perfect spot to put it and the best thing ever built for grapplers. Like, there's just no better. You can just slide it in here with the Whoop 4.0, and I'll get to that in a second, but you can just slide this in here, and boom, go. You're good to go. And I have, like I said, six pairs of these, and guess what I use today? These. The majority of the time. Now, I also do have one pair of the Whoop 5.0 underwear. And you notice I only have one pair of them. Meanwhile, we've had the Whoop 5.0 for almost a year now. What happened that I didn't just replace my Whoop underwear? Because, by the way, these underwear are so worn at this point in time, the Whoop on the back of it is nonexistent. So, there used to be labeling that you can't see at all. There used to be white labeling where this said Whoop, and it it doesn't say that anymore because they're that worn, right? Because you wash them after every session. So, here's the Whoop 5.0 underwear. The most important thing is they moved this puck placement. So, the puck placement used to be up here, right? And the band used to be slightly bigger. People complained that the band was uncomfortable when not running or doing jujitsu, and that's probably true. The band is uncomfortable when you're not running or doing jiu-jitsu, but why would you want to wear these any other time? Like, just to be blunt, I would never wear $30 underwear when I'm not running, doing jiu-jitsu, some kind of an activity. Right? Um so, yeah, it could be slightly uncomfortable to be there when you're not doing activity, but they put it down here, which is actually on your butt, which is on the side of your butt. And I know it looks like it's only a small difference in position, right? But it is a gigantic difference in position when you're actually on a mat. Because this is now actually pressing into where you land, and and the worst is this thing comes off. And that's the thing that I got the the the email about. People find People who finally asked the question of, "Is this a good idea to have this puck?" And the answer is no. It's a terrible idea. You Like, I've lost this thing twice, and I only have one pair of underwear. You know, meaning if I lose this puck, I can't wear these underwear whenever I go to jiu-jitsu. Because when I wash it, you have to take the stupid thing off. So, you have to take this off to wash them, and then you will inevitably lose them, and my solution to that was going to be to just buy a bunch of pairs. But why did I only buy one pair? Well, the answer is they're awful. This positioning is horrible for running, it's horrible for jiu-jitsu, it's horrible for all activities. And when they first came out, I got into an argument with someone on Reddit because my post was, "Hey, these things are awful, right? These things are unusable." And um someone replied back, "I use them for all activities, and I love it." And then I'm like, "What activities do you do, right?" No response. It was clearly someone from Whoop that is bought like that's effectively a human bot because they have enough money to pay people to be human bots. Because no response of what activity they actually did. And I can tell you in my personal life, I only know a couple people who would even be able to get Oh, and also these don't track very well. Like definitively do not have the track tracking capability of the Whoop 4.0 underwear. Like it is noticeable that this thing doesn't make a connection with your with my body correctly. Right? And that could be I have a relatively small butt uh for my size. You know, that that could be it, but and and if that's the case, there's only like two or three people in my life that that actually this thing would read properly. And that would be because I'd have a uh a a small waist and a large butt. Right? So, they're like fine-tuning this underwear for not you know, not the normal person. That's the only thing I can think of because they they literally do not track me correctly. And it's noticeable when they're on. So, not only is this puck easy to lose, a pain in the butt, but also they don't track very well. Uh and so, with the Whoop 5.0, I only bought one pair of underwear and then called it and didn't buy any other garments. So, the for the 4.0, I have almost everything you could possibly have and that's why I wanted to show off the shirt. So, the shirt is not my favorite thing, but it will at least show you the placement of So, the placement's down here at the very edge of the shirt and that would end up going right here. Um on your body and it's actually I mean, the shirt itself is is a shirt, right? It's kind of my last. So, whenever I rank things in terms of using them, right? If somehow I'm doing a crazy week or I haven't done laundry in enough time, what will end up happening is I'll go through all my Whoop 4.0 underwear. Um I lost my sleeve, so I have a sleeve and normally I'd wear the sleeve once, right? So that's that's seven, and then this is eight. And then this this set of underwear from Whoop 5.0 is literally my last ditch. I had to wear this because I couldn't find anything else or whatever. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's in the laundry done. But I you know, I have to search my house to find everything and you know, this is a 4:35 in the morning, so I'm not really the most diligent with my searches trying to find everything. So this will be the last ditch thing. Uh and the biggest problem is the Whoop 4.0 and the Whoop 5.0 are not the same size, right? And that's been talked about ad nauseam whenever the thing came out. It was hugely controversial. Um I I already did a video on that saying, "Hey, not only is it not the same size, the Whoop 5.0 is bigger in the only way that matters, which is elevation off the wrist, right? So it's actually bigger, but it has a better battery life. So the trade-off was better battery life, but bigger off the wrist, and they made it smaller in ways that don't matter." Right? So like literally the the dimensions are smaller while it's higher off your wrist, which actually makes it worse in practice. But that those small shifts in size mean that I thought I was going to have to replace all my Whoop 4.0 underwear, but there is actually a trick to making them all work. So with this Whoop 4.0 underwear, I do this really fancy thing called a spacer. So and this is just uh jujitsu gi finger wrap tape wrapped over and you can see it's kind of dirty. You might be able to see it's kind of dirty, but it's kind of dirty because it's the only thing I don't wash, right? Actually these have gotten washed every now and then cuz I forget to take them out of the underwear, but um I have a couple of these and they slide in the underwear and keep it perfectly in place. So what I'll do is here, I'll take it off and actually show you. So, you take this off. This is how quick this is, by the way. This can be done in seconds. You put the spacer in. Just slide the spacer the whole way down. Press it up against the other side as hard as I can. And then slide the Whoop in. And boom, it's in the exact right spot. It's almost like someone at Whoop should have designed a pair of underwear like this instead of making me put a freaking spacer in there. Like this is insane. You know what I mean? To have worse performing worse outcome underwear with your new device. And to have me do this instead of buy new hardware. Or buy new buy new underwear. Like I would have just bought the new underwear instead of having to do the spacer thing. But the spacer does put it in the right position and it doesn't slide around then. If you don't use a spacer, which sometimes I'll lose my spacers, it will slide around in there a little bit. And I did have it pop out once. So, one time is it popped out. But then I wanted to talk about what a lot of grapplers do because it's a far cheaper approach. Cuz $30 for underwear gets pretty pricey. And I don't blame people for not doing it, but a lot of people use this, this strap. This is just a longer version of a strap. And I really, really don't like these. And I think it's just me because everyone else in my gym who uses a Whoop uses one of these. But this slides on and it goes in that same position that I was talking about. But you can see it it's already So, to get it on here, it's already kind of pinching my skin. Uh which I don't like that. You know what I mean? But then whenever I flex my bicep, you can see it pops the positioning of it. And if someone clips this whenever I pop the positioning of it, it goes flying off my off my bicep. And I think that's exclusive to me. Like the other guys at the gym don't have biceps my size, you know, just to be blunt. Um and I probably flex a little bit more than other people when I'm doing jiu-jitsu, just in general, the way I'm pulling my arms. I do a lot of pulling motions. So, I end up moving this thing around. And I've all I've been trying to slide it around and it just creates this uh the biggest thing I don't want whenever I'm doing jiu-jitsu is something that causes me to not focus on the roll. And this was a major distraction point for me. The same, actually, I have these rubber rings, right? And you'd think, "Oh, he probably uses these rubber rings when he does jiu-jitsu." No, I take them off. I use them for lifting, but I will not use them for jiu-jitsu. And the one that I forgot and had it on and I had to throw it off mid-roll because it'll slide around a little bit. And that distraction actually really, when I'm rolling with the purple belts or above, it matters and it can cause me to lose the match. So, I just chuck those off and I've actually had to chuck this off once during a match. Um which is not ideal because I like to track that. And And that's another thing that I wanted to talk about. A lot of people have Garmins, right, at my gym. And I just gave my Gar- my old Garmins to a buddy of mine who's also uh jiu-jitsu athlete. And hehe his first his first thing is I've noticed he's been at jiu-jitsu less since getting the Garmins. Now, part of that is, you know, part of that's travel and summer, but the other part of that is I'm pretty sure it's because it's not tracking it. Uh his his workouts in jiu-jitsu are not tracked anymore. One of the other guys does wear a chest strap, but I notice his jiu-jitsu style allows him to wear a chest strap. If you watch the way he rolls, he's not rolling with a lot of uh forward down pressure when he's on top. He's using a lot more dynamic movement. And he's not And even when he's not on even when he's on bottom, he's not locking people's arm to the center of his chest. Whereas I do a lot because I I I use triangles and I use a semi-open guard. Like I use a lot of pushing someone's arm into that center point of my chest to be able to pull it across. So, I'll do it in multiple steps. And unfortunately, that means they're hitting your chest strap. And I just couldn't I tried that before switching to using the Whoop. It's to use the chest straps on the Garmin. And then also, you have to start your activity and end your activity typically. Uh I know their heart rate monitors can track without tracking the activity, but it doesn't um doesn't register the same way in Garmin's system. And I don't know if that's updated to where you can do it after the fact. I think you could, but all of that requires manual entry, right? All of that requires thought. And I want to just be able to get on the mats, have my underwear on, and then just train, and it'll log it or not log it. And my rule with jiu-jitsu is if the Whoop registers it as a workout, then it was a workout. If the Whoop doesn't register as a workout, that means I didn't push hard enough. So, it's actually an indicator to me. I don't go back in and enter them as workouts. Uh I use that as, "Hey, you either didn't push hard enough today or you had a specific reason why you weren't pushing hard. Like you were coaching people or talking through things, and you specifically made the decision of I'm not going to beat my body up today because something didn't feel right." So, there are days like that where legitimately I was at the gym, and I didn't get a BJJ training activity, and that's valid. You know, that's a valid thing, and I don't go back in and enter those. That That's what I wanted to talk about though. I wanted to talk specifically about the underwear, and I'm hopeful and optimistic, by the way, that they're changing this and getting rid of this puck. Like my opinion is, personally, like the reason why I'm doing this and doing it now, and wanted to do this video at some point in time, is if you're thinking about buying a Whoop, which in my opinion, by the way, uh no one should be thinking about buying a Whoop right now unless you have a lot of money and you're willing to burn it because even though I still use the Whoop, there's so many my my wife wears the Amazfit, which was the first competitor, and that thing's phenomenal. And then we have so many the Fitbit just came out, which I know everyone's ranting and raving about, which also has a similar bicep setup now. Uh there's also the Polar Loop. So, you have so many options, and Garmin's going to come out with a competitor this year, we know that. Uh so, there's going to be so many competitors to the Whoop that I just don't think it's practical to go out and buy the thing, especially not with it not being that much better than all their competitors. Uh it is like I really do like the automatic activity tracking, and I just think for my purposes, I'm going to keep it for quite a while. Uh but in my opinion, this puck thing, if you were even thinking about it because of the garments, uh and because you want to be able to wear it anywhere, the Whoop 4.0, unfortunately, was the correct version of these garments and was actually good. And what they've built with the Whoop 5.0, I mean, I literally went from buying almost everything I could as far as Whoop garments that would be practical for jiu-jitsu, like I had them all. I had the sleeves, I had every single thing you could have for Whoop 4.0 to buying one pair of underwear and realizing this stuff is trash. They actually made them worse. Like this is definitely a worse location for this for this puck, and the puck itself is bad. So, I can't imagine all the rest of their garments if this one the the one that was most important to me, they made into trash. Like I I can imagine all of them are trash. Even even this shirt, to to have that puck there, I don't think people realize how much you can feel this puck. Like, you can actually feel this. You know, it's it's not soft. Um it definitely has sharp edges to it. And you can feel the thing. Like, it's it's noticeable in a way that it wasn't with the prior With the prior just having I mean, you can feel the the metal of the back of the Whoop. Obviously, you will feel every now and then, but you're not feeling the rubber plastic around it. You know, you're not feeling any of that kind of stuff because it's all it's all like really small material around the thing. Right? So, if we look at this, it's all this like nice soft material. So, everything around it is soft. And then only if you press directly on the glass metal port part, will you feel the thing. Right? And And the way it's distributed. But, what happens is these edges will actually clip you on this rubber. And it hurts. And it's like, I cannot believe they built basically a pile and they pitched this thing as if it was the greatest thing they've ever done. That oh, we have these interchangeable pucks and you can wear them for every No one wants to wear your overpriced underwear when they're not doing some kind of an activity that justifies it. Like, I cannot imagine people doing that. And it's not that comfortable or that nice of underwear that you could justify doing that. Right? It is it's good for grappling. Like, it is like I have uh other pieces of grappling gear that are way nicer, right? But, like like grappling underwear that I don't wear anymore that have like pads before I got the Whoop. And those are way way nicer than this. Um but, this is better than wearing, you know, Fruit of the Loom underwear for sure because this is actually the right material. So, is it the right material? Yes. Is the right material for activities? But also when you're not doing activities, I prefer to wear cheap Fruit of the Loom underwear. Like I don't wear activity-specific underwear when I'm not doing activities. So this isn't even the right material for everyday wear for me. And neither is a shirt, you know what I mean? I wear I mean, you can see whoop, I actually hit my mic with that, but you can see that this uh this shirt is like a cotton shirt, right? I'm using I'm wearing cotton everything outside of when I'm doing activities. Like and if you're anything like me where you wear cotton outside of activities, you are or cotton derived polyester or whatever, uh you're going to you're going to absolutely hate this stuff whenever you're not training. So what they announced was nonsensical and once I got one pair, I'm like, this is this isn't just nonsensical, it's in the wrong spot. So if the one I care about most and one of their most expensive pieces in terms of like what you're getting material-wise versus how much they're charging, they put in the wrong spot, I can't imagine what the rest of their lineup looks like. And so I stopped right there and only bought one and was hoping they they'd fix it. And it sounds like with that survey, they're actually thinking about fixing it and reverting back to what they had with the Whoop 4.0. And I can tell you by the way, if they do revert back, I will be buying four new pairs because these are getting old and this is actually the nicest pair. This is the newest pair and all of the writings, you know, destroyed on it. So you can imagine what the other ones are looking like. They're starting to get ripped up. They're starting to you know, they're starting to get really beat up because they're old, right? Uh and they're used constantly. You know, I grapple three, four times a week usually unless I'm sick. So uh and sometimes more than that. So it just one one things where I'm uh excited and hopeful that they'll fix it, but in terms of buying a device right now, I would look at one of the competitors. Even my buddy who I gave the garments to, I'm like, "Hey, you might want to look at getting the Fitbit, you know, and and bringing that into class because it's so cheap." You know, at 100 bucks, like the Amazfit or the Fitbit are the way you should go. Those are the two of of the three. I don't think the Polar, unless you're in the Polar ecosystem with your with your running, you know, with your actual running watch, uh if you run also, I I don't see any I don't see any justification on buying the Polar Loop over the other two devices. But, for my buddy, probably the Fitbit because it's so small and so easy to put put anywhere, and he doesn't use his biceps frequently. He's not you know, he's not my size, so and I think that that was a large part of the slippage on this cuz a lot of people use these and love them, you know, and I'm the only one It's like, "I can't use this thing." You know, I can use it uh when I lift because it will stay in place unless I'm doing like bicep curls. It'll stay in place enough for lifting, but for whatever reason with the way I do jujitsu, it just doesn't work. And it's kind of disappointing, right, to have this thing and and it'll stay in my bag usually just in case I forget to put on the underwear, but yeah, it's it's not my favorite in terms of devices, but yeah, I have this I have this spacer, right, that I end up using for the Whoop 4.0 underwear. It's just mind-boggling that I have to do that, you know, that they didn't come out with a design that was acceptable enough for me to upgrade to. But, that was the video. I mean, it's a pretty simple video, right? If you have any other commentary on Whoop, if you love the the Whoop 5.0 garments and you wear them all the time and and and you wear them for specifically the underwear for activities, and they fit you correctly, I want to know about it because I've when when asked the direct question, I've had zero people ever come back and say, "I have the Whoop underwear. They fit me phenomenally when I'm doing activities. They track perfectly, and I use them for running or jujitsu or something like that, and they're not uncomfortable." Um I've never heard that from a single person once actually asked the follow-up questions, right? One person said, "Oh yeah, I use them for all kind of activities." Asked the follow-up question of what activities, and they don't respond. I think because I caught them in, you know, a BS answer. And then one person's like, "Oh yeah, I wear them when I'm not doing any activities, and I wear them without the Whoop in them." And it's like, "Well, okay. I mean, you're just not the type of person I am." You know, I prefer to wear cotton, and I prefer to wear like normal clothes outside of training, but I could see that because it is not I did put them on once or twice without the puck in there just to see how they feel, and they feel like regular underwear. You can't feel the Velcro in the back is what I'm getting at, cuz there's a Velcro where that puck snaps onto. You can't feel that. Uh but why would you ever do that? Like, why am I going to waste my money on these underwear for use in everyday life? It just doesn't make sense to me. But yeah, if you if you have any questions, comments, uh if you have anything else you'd want, especially Garmin and uh Garmin and Whoop related, because now I have a buddy that actually gets to to use my old Garmins and see uh see the difference between the two, and kind of experience the tracking. That was a a big thing for him is he never realized how valuable this tracking could be. Another place where I got into an argument online was another one around tracking, because they said heart rate on these trackers is only uh they said that it's between 30% to 50% inaccurate. That was the claim they made. And realize something like the Whoop or the Garmin or the Apple Watch, 30% is is the maximum amount their heart rate can ever be off. And typically that is in the most strenuous of your activities. So, say you go for a run and you do a burst at 5 seconds at maximum heart rate, it might miss that, especially on your wrist. So, wrist-based heart rate is notoriously bad. And it might miss that. And and so, this guy was arguing they're basically useless because you know, and we've heard this argument over and over again. And by the way, anytime I see that argument, I got to say, "What do you look like?" And this one actually there was a picture of him because it was on Facebook. And sure enough, no offense, but it's a fat guy. And it's like, "Dude, you're making an argument to not even look at your heart rate because it ain't I guarantee you you don't ever do maximum intensity at anything with the way you look. Like, you're not going out running at at max doing sprints. You're not doing hill sprints, you know, which is one of the things that I did whenever I was doing half marathon training that got eliminated because it's not fun. So, when I was training for half marathons, I was doing hill sprints. Now, I do not do them. I do do long steady-state cardio. And guess what? The things stay on my wrist and I don't wear my chest strap. When I was doing those hill sprints, the chest strap was on. Why was the chest strap on? Because otherwise they wouldn't get picked up. Right? And I know that. I would miss half of the high-intensity workout of my high-intensity workout. So, when I was doing those things, I wore the chest strap. One of one of my runs, you know, this year, early this year, just to make sure everything was in sync, I wore my my fancy Garmin chest strap, you know, one of the highest end ones they have. I wore the thing uh just to see how different that run would look heart rate wise. And because they're low intensity steady state runs, it is identical. It was almost identical to the In fact, the Whoop was on my other hand and it was almost identical. Now, they register slightly different heart rates. Like the Whoop will have a slightly higher heart rate than the Garmin just in general. And but they're consistent with themselves. So, does it matter if it's five points higher, but it's always five points higher across everything? Not really. It's not that important. What's important is it's accurate with its own measurement system. Because then you can track it over time. And that's what you want to do with these things. So, when you look at this empirical data, you got to understand first of all, you know, his 50% claim just doesn't exist. Like there aren't any that are off by 50% now of the highest end expensive top tier wearables. Like none of them are off by 50%. That 30% is at the top end of high activity, which I'm not even doing anymore. I'm doing steady state cardio to try to you know, for health and longevity and not doing you know, hill sprints, which would help with half marathon training and stuff like that, but isn't really, you know, with jujitsu itself, I beat myself up doing that kind of interval training. And by the way, some of my jujitsu I know is not tracked properly. Like I realized that it's not tracking some of the highest intensity moments and giving me the scores for some of that time. But anytime I've ever gone and had a training session where I'm laying on the mat huffing and puffing afterwards, it registered as a workout. Which is really all that matters to me, right? Is hey, did this And also, was this the most intense workout? Because those all register pretty high. And if you look at the actual HR zones, probably wrong. You know, I probably lost two, three minutes of high intensity because it either didn't stay long enough in the zone or didn't track it quick enough. Just because the way I'm being jostled around while I'm moving, and I'm okay with that. Like, it doesn't have to be perfect to give me a representation of this was my hardest training session in a long time, and now everything else has to be backed down for that. And in fact, I've finally given up and given Arya full control over the entire training schedule. Uh starting now because because I got sick with the flu three times this winter, and I think a big part of that was overtraining once I got done with the flu. So, what would happen is I would go I would take the amoxicillin, get over the flu, and then I would go back to training as hard as I could as as if the flu never happened, and then boom, I'm sick again in a month and a half uh because I just up'd the training intensity back to where it was, and thought I could handle it because the Garmin will start ramping you very, very quickly. And the Whoop actually will ramp you very, very quickly, also. And so now my AI system is actually taking control of my lifts, of my runs, although I do still use the Garmin runs over the AI system and try to push myself a little harder with these runs in terms of uh the sheer length of the runs, but I I'm trying to balance everything more appropriately. And the other part of that is actually having it do my strength training sessions for me. So, it's kind of an experiment. I want to see where it goes, but I finally handed it over and have it do full training plans for me. Adaptive training plans based upon the inputs from uh the eight sleep, from the Whoop, from the Garmin, from every from the speediness itself. So, from all these devices, it's doing an adaptive training plan that actually and and specifically around my Jiu-Jitsu cuz I train in the morning is going to do that adaptive training plan um when I come back from Jiu-Jitsu now based upon what happened in Jiu-Jitsu. So, my strength training will go to recovery based off if I had a really hard training session in Jiu-Jitsu. My run will get dialed back because sometimes the Garmin because it's set at the beginning of the day will say I need a 40-minute 155 heart rate run. And I will have just done one of my hardest Jiu-Jitsu sessions. It's like you can't do that. And finally Aura will come back and give me a uh a more appropriate run for the day based upon what happened in Jiu-Jitsu. So, I'm going to try to do Garmin's runs especially on non-Jiu-Jitsu days like today. I'm going to be doing Garmin's run. Yesterday I did Garmin's run cuz I didn't train. I was debating about whether training on Saturday but I didn't. And uh and then on days where I do those Jiu-Jitsu training sessions I'm going to ignore the Garmin if it gives me something outlandish to do. So, that's kind of the tentative plan going forward with this stuff. I think it's meaningful. I think it's impactful. I think it's helped my health in in training and not been a hindrance. And any of these like a lot of the time when I hear I see people ah it's inaccurate and wrong I I I feel like it's excuses for not working hard. Unless you're an individual there's a set of individuals like like my buddy who now has the Garmin and he's not training because he can't track it, right? Or I see individuals who don't go to training because they have a low recovery score which is a real common problem with Whoop particular but my solution to that is when I wake up in the morning I don't check my recovery unless I feel absolutely terrible. And so, if I feel absolutely terrible, I pull up my recovery and it's green, I'm going to jiu-jitsu. Like, I don't know what's going on, but I'm going to jiu-jitsu because my recovery was green on Whoop. And I don't even use any of the other sensors or Ari's decision-making because it's too early in the morning. Uh if I feel good, I don't check my recovery. So, I've had plenty of red days where I get done with my jiu-jitsu session, I felt good getting to the gym, but I felt like garbage during the training session. My Whoop comes back and says, "Hey, you had a nine or 10 strain for your jiu-jitsu this morning." I click on it, "Ah, yeah, my recovery was 10%." It's clearly It's really in the red, and you just taxed your body and and beat yourself up pretty bad. Those happen a lot, but my my solution is simply to not check it until afterwards and go and train. That gets me way more training sessions if had I check it ahead of time. And I know there's a lot of high-level athletes cuz I listen to some of the Whoop podcast who will actually have their coaches know their Whoop recovery scores and have it hidden from them whenever they're in whenever they're in season with with their athletics. Like, they don't want to see it. They want their coaches to know, but not themselves. And that makes a lot of sense for for those high-level athletes. I think that's actually the way to approach that. Is have someone else be able to you know, uh tailor that because if they see a red recovery and you have a big game, they're going to choose to not tell you >> [laughter] >> till after the game. Or they'll they'll make decisions about how to utilize you in a game, especially if it's a team sport. I think those things are very important, and I think they make sense, and I think we're going to see a lot more of this tracking going forward. And any of the studies that I look at, the accuracy of these things are far, far better other than sleep stages. That's utter trash. But other than that, the accuracy on these things are incredible for what they are. I mean, people are like, "Ah, it's not perfect." It's like, "Yeah, it's on your wrist." Like, this is incredible. The the progress we've made in the last 15 years on wrist-based tracking, the fact that it can even attempt to track uh things like blood pressure and other kind of signals from your body off of your wrist and off of like algorithmic uh determination, and it's just incredible. Like, these things have come so far for people to say that they're not accurate enough, especially when they're not in shape themselves, is absolutely insane. I get it if you don't want to track any of this stuff, and you don't think it'll be motivational, don't buy it, you know? That Like, why would you go out and buy something if you think it's going to uh lessen your performance. You know, if you're someone who has high motivational drive intrinsically, and you don't need to track metrics in any way to you're not a gamification person, then I would for sure not be buying these things. But, if you are a gamification person, and you want the ultimate in gamification, uh a lot of these devices are phenomenal for that. Uh especially something like the Garmin that gives you daily workouts. So, to be honest with you, the Garmin is actually of mine the of my of my devices, my pick for people who want, you know, gamification because you have that daily suggested workout there. Uh by I think it's on by default, or can be turned on very quickly if it's not on by default. The Whoop is more uh it doesn't do suggested workouts unless you use their Whoop AI. Like, it doesn't really suggest things, and then it will. And it can help you put together a plan, but it's a whole different mechanism than you wake up in the morning and it tells you what to do. Uh which is what I'm actually trying to have Arya instead of Garmin do because Garmin's like, "Ah, you're only a runner. Here's the run for the day." And it's like, "That's not what's going to happen today." Yeah, thank you for your time. I really appreciate it. Uh that's all I have for today.